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Cskaresz, Montpellier is a big team pal, you will see it. Kolding's chances are very low... I hope if you qualify to meet them in the next round! They have Karabatic, Kavtičnik and Hmam as backs...

I don't think the Danish teams will draw or win a match from these 4, no offence! In this new season, some things changed, you live in the past, pal. FC Copenhagen is way worse this season and will be easily eliminated and Kolding is a small team. It will be nice to bet against these two teams if the bookies are overrating them like you...

Veszprem is also big favourite with HCM, I am just saying your team has a more difficult game, that's all... I mean, Constanta has 10-15% more chances to qualify than the Danish teams! I am usually right, note that last week I rated Hypo-Viborg to be almost a 50-50 match and Gyor to win easily...

Well, it seems that our opinions are not matching. I do think that KIF will cause some problems at least at home. They are not a bad team at all.

In some weeks we will see who was right, maybe you.

And no doubt, none of the group winners will be eliminated.

yes, that is why you eat your hat..
because you were right..

Let my hat alone, I have a new one! Oltchim will win the CL this year?

Yes , being arrogant it can be like an excuse for you unlimited optimism.

There is no doubt that Veszprem has bigger experience in the superior phases of CL and is a strong team but in the same time you have to be fair and regarding HCM.
There are people who believe in Veszprem and who believe that the qualified team further it will be HCM. Is nothing interesting to see people considering Constanta having chance , a surprise is possible everytime and probably they are romanian fans , being quite normal to support HCM.

Also there is no joke , If you have seen Montpellier , you could also see they are stronger than Veszprem. But you are just subjective and probably not the only one.

Every team has a chance against any other team. Otherwise this round would be useless (There are already too many CL-matches)

Yes, Silvius, he is kinda arrogant, I didn't say HCM is favourite or something, I just said Veszprem received the most difficult opponent from pot 4. Constanta is considered the best team from pot 4 by many and they proved it gaining the most points from that 4 teams from the last pot. There is a clear difference between pot 1 and pot 4. But, no offence, Veszprem is more near to the pot 2 than 1 and Constanta is more near to the pot 3 than 4, if you understand what I mean.

Lajos Mocsai, coach MKB Veszprém: "We received the most difficult opponent, I would have chosen one of the Danish teams myslelf. Constanta have beaten Montpellier with a convincing performance and caused a surprise in Valladolid too. I expect two big fights in tremendous atmosphere. Toma and Sabou are great wingers and they have a very good line player as well – not to mention their backcourt…"

Don't give any credit to Lajos Mocsai reaction. He always says the same: the next opponent is very-very hard, and we will have a very difficult game, even if we beat them by 20 goals later on.

We will see it soon ...

I am dissapointed.
I want Kiel to come at Buzau to play with Constanta.
Veszprem is very good,and even if MKB lose in Romania,in Hungary we will lose very simple.
I think in Romania HCM will keep the score close.I hope so.

The only problem is that KIF will not play this match at their ususally very strong home court in Kolding, because the arena is reserved for European Junior Championship in Judo or something like that.
So Kolding are playing in 104 km further north in NRGi Arena in Århus instead. This is the arena where the GF World Cup for women in held and the homecourt of Århus GF in the men's league and the former homecourt of SK Århus in the women's league until they got kicked out of the arena because of unpaid bills.
The NRGi Arena is a lot bigger than the arena in Kolding and with the spectators futher away from the court. KIF can't fill the aerena with spectators, so the intensity on the stands is a lot lower than in Kolding.

But another and probably much bigger problem for KIF is that their probably most important player Bo Spellerberg was sick for a long time before the match and has lost 4-6 kg. and is starting on the bench because of this.

KIF Kolding - Montpellier HB 26-26

Right back Vid Kavtičnik from Montpellier scored the last goal directly on a 9m shot after the time had run out, when he shot right through the parades in the KIF wall.

It's the 3rd time KIF plays a draw against a big team at homecourt, after playing draws against both FC Barcelona and THW Kiel in the group phase.

The least I expect from Poltergeist is to say "I'm sorry, you were right cskaresz."



But you know what, keep it for tomorrow, so you don't have to say it twice.

How much money did you loose to the bookies today

Yes, you were right, Cskaresz, but note that Montpellier lost the match not Kolding won it. Montpellier had 13-10 at the half time and lost 3/3 missed 7 meters... It could have been bigger difference, but Karabatic the foul helped the Danish team with 2 eliminations in a row same as he helped Constanta!

@ The Dane

Yes, Kolding is a quality team, because they have backs in form. But Montpellier is from another planet and they might play better with the big teams, same as France did at the WC... Still, I don't like their keepers!


PS. I lost some money yes, but not too much. I didn't bet Montpellier with handicap because it is dangerous to bet like this away and against a team who drew with Kiel and Barcelona. When Kolding led with 2 goas I found Montpellier to win @ 1.85 and I took it... From my point of view, Honrubia lost the game for Montpellier with 2 misses with the keeper in a row, even Karabatic also got 2 eliminations in just some minutes. Also the French keepers were very, very poor, especially the white one!

Kielce-Hamburg: no surprise. Actually, I didn't really expect one. two bright points in our team: Cleverly and Jurasik. Teams like HSV are too strong for Polish champion at the moment.

HCM Constanta vs Veszprem LIVE VIDEO here: http://www.sport.ro/live/ibu1.html (good quality no plugin needed)

The match starts at 15:15 CET

FCK Copenhagen - THW Kiel 31-33

With 1½ minutes to go FCK's Mamelund made one of his trademark passings directly to an opponet in a fast-break and the opponent ran directly down and scored. A very bad habit Mamelund has started passing directly to the opponents in the dying moments, he has done it a couple of times for the Norwegian NT in important matches recently.

33:31 Kiel not FCK.

Yes sorry, I typed the score wrong, but I have corrected it now.

CONSTANTA-VESZPRÉM 23-27 (9-12)

Probably the worst match (of Veszprém) in this season. It was very long, the game was always interrupted by some reason, the match did not have a fast rhythm. Everyone had an awful match in Veszprém, but especially the backs. Where was Vujin? Why didn't Fazekas get any chance when Peric was a disaster? This was a poor game from Mocsai as well. I expected much much more! In Constanta Csepreghi and Toma are great players. It was already pathetic that Iváncsik could not score when the Wing jumped in as a GK. And it was a very silly end game by the Romanians, perhaps they got tired. Our qualification must be sure, but we have to improve a lot for the QF.

And I wouldn't comment the performance of the referees. Where did they come from? Bundesliga 6th division?

Overall no suprises at all feels like second group stage is much better than last 16 games. Only quarter finals and F4 are difficult to predict.

Maybe a small suprise that Barcalona won that easy in Zagreb, but the overall agg win is not any suprise.

Game Constanta Veszprem FT score did not tell the real story, would say 1 goal game but Peric wos very good. Veszprem are much better and controled the game from start to finish. Not even 2-3 goal Constanta lead would help in Hungary.

Real will toy with Gorenje later today.

Caja Ademar-Medvedi Moskva for me is 50/50 overall agg games. The most and only interesting overall tie.

I expekted a very close match in 1st leg, but we lost our head in the ending. Both teams had problems with the backs today, but from my point of view Constanta had the biggest. Also, the difference was made especially because of Peric and also because in 2nd half, don't know how, we lost it just by 1 goal difference even we played I think about 25 minutes with 1 man in minus... The referees from my point of view were correct, many eliminations for both teams!

I feel sorry for HCM, but they have a too young team or let's say the backs are very young Muresan, Csepreghi, Sadoveac, without big experience at this level yet.. Veszprem is a hard nut, they have experiecen and many foreign players! If you watch Constanta's roster, we have just 3 foreign players, 1 from Hungary and 2 from Serbia, all 3 always reserves and Pavlovic didn't even play today...

From my point of view, good luck for Veszprem winning the CL for them but also for Marian Cozma too! They have the experience in CL so many years and they kept the same team, players with big experience at this level and who played in the biggest championships too... HCM should also keep the team and bringing 2-3 more players!

PS. Hope we win with Oltchim, because here I need to admit it was class difference. Anyway, I didn't wait something else, because don't forget, this is the new format of CL: 1st team of the groups, the winners are facing the teams from the 4th position in 1/16...

Veszprem - Constanta was a very big disaster.. i dont know what went wrong with the players, the refs and the game was very ugly... but Constanta really did a gr8 job and Vp should think it over what went wrong.. Congrtas for them, and Toma is a really genious player he should be in a bigger team. (not saying Constanta is not)

Hehe, it will be Hungary - Romania 2 - 0

Otherwise "I eat my" ....

Yes, Naya, but for Veszprem in the end was perfect... I personally don't know what were with our boys, maybe just with one exception with Toma who is really great! Being this thing with Cozma, it was like we played this match like a friendly... And in the end we even lost our head and it could have been an equal match!

Pfff... our backs played so bad today! Muresan inconsistent, the only one who tried something was Csepreghi but not too much... Sadoveac many mistakes, Florin Toma when he entered he wasn't in the same! From Adzic I don't expekt many... I don't know why the coach didn't use Pavlovic!