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Postby koco » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:55 pm

Russia-Fan wrote:muravyeva is back from hospital. it seems that everything is ok, she said no need to worry....
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That`s realy good news.
But,what kind of injury she had? I don`t know!



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Postby Russia-Fan » Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:05 am

it is the right knee. but the docters at polish hospital said that nothing is broken or torn.
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Postby jgomsi » Mon Oct 01, 2007 8:45 am

Jessen wrote:Out and in EHF-cup is suprisingly this big clubs:

Aalborg DH
Sagunto (what did they do in this weekend? :shock: )
Motor Zaparosje
Byaasen


I don't know if Sagunto's financial problems have something to do with their low performance... I haven't read any statement from the club yet.

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Postby Burki » Mon Oct 01, 2007 9:55 am

Congrat to Sävehof :D biggest success ever for swedish female club handball :thumright: coach still cant catch the reality and think he dreams.

SVT 24 did sign contract immediately, so 6 more CL games on TV :D first pair out is Sävehof - Krim.

Sävehof really did something amazing, Sävehof is an amateur semi pro club who knock out full pro teams, Sävehof dont even have 5% of the money and training possibility as the Danish team, this is an exploit.

Biggest newspaper in Swedem (Aftonbladet) compare this win with the hocky game USA - CCCP 1980 when amateurs beat Russia.

Facts:

Ålborg: Budget 2.5 milion Euros, many of the players have monthly salary up to 10.000 - 11.500 Euros and are full pro players.

Sävehof: Budget 180.000 Euros, not one singel pro player in the team, they have ordinary jobs on day time or study.




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Glädjetårar Sävehofs damer tog sig oväntat till Champions League, vilket är en av de största skrällarna i svensk handboll någonsin.
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Amatörerna från Partille slog ut fullblodsproffsen från Danmark och Ukraina.

Nu är Sävehof som första svenska damlag någonsin klara för Champions League.

– Detta är den största sensationen genom tiderna i svensk handboll, säger Per Johansson, damförbundskapten och SVT:s expert.

Det är lätt att ta till överord när svenska lag lyckas i europaspel.

Men inte den här gången.

Hör bara:

Sävehof hade egentligen inte ens rätt att vara med i kvalet till Champions League då Sverige är så lågt rankat.

Men då Schweiz representant drog sig ur fick Sävehof chansen och åkte för en månad sedan till ett förkval där ett av fyra lag skulle gå vidare till nästa kval.

– Vi tänkte att vi kanske hade en liten, liten chans att ta oss vidare därifrån, säger Pär Jilsén, assisterande tränare.
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Sävehof tog chansen och i helgen var det dags för nästa gruppkval i Grekland mot danska storlaget Ålborg, ukrainska proffsen Zaporozhye och grekiska Patras.

Efter förlust mot ukrainskorna, segrar mot danskorna och grekiskorna samt en målskillnadsaffär var skrällen ett faktum.

– Vi är ett amatörlag med en snittålder på 21 år som slår ut fullblodsproffsen, säger Jilsén.

Ålborg omsätter cirka 20 miljoner kronor om året att jämföra med Sävehofs damlags drygt två miljoner.

Flera av de danska spelarna tjänar över 100 000 kronor i månaden medan ingen i Sävehof ens är proffs.
”Som OS 1980”

– Det här går att jämföra med USA:s hockeylag som slog Sovjet i OS 1980.

Våra tjejer sliter som djur för varandra och danskorna kom efteråt och var avundsjuka på den inställning vi har.

Nu är Sävehof ett av 16 lag i Champions League.

– Detta är den största sensationen genom tiderna i svensk handboll. Jag förstår inte hur det gått till, säger Per Johansson, assisterande damförbundskapten och SVT:s expert Johan Flinck.


Största skrällarna i svensk handboll:

1. Sävehofs damer går till Champions League 2007.

2. Drott slår ut Barcelona i Europacupens kvartsfinal 1989.

3. Damlandslaget vinner borta mot Tyskland och blir klara för VM 2001.

4. RIK slår ut tyska Lemgo i Cupvinnarcupens semifinal 2003.

5. Sävehof slår Kiel hemma i Champions League-gruppspelet 2004.

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Postby Burki » Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:12 am

1. Hypo Niederösterreich
2. HC Kometal Gjorče Petrov
3. Larvik HK
4. HC "Lada Togliatti"

Vary hard group, Kometal wos seeded in pot 2 for the CL drow but didint gett much benefit out of it, unfortunately. Kometal have the weakest line up since 1995/1996 and it will be hard task to even make CWC, will be between Larvik and Kometal. Hypo look very strong during the preperation games and Lada last yars finalist did toy with the Polish home team and also with the Spanish team.

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Postby Picek » Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:24 am

Burki wrote:Congrat to Sävehof :D biggest success ever for swedish female club handball :thumright: coach still cant catch the reality and think he dreams.

SVT 24 did sign contract immediately, so 6 more CL games on TV :D first pair out is Sävehof - Krim.

Sävehof really did something amazing, Sävehof is an amateur semi pro club who knock out full pro teams, Sävehof dont even have 5% of the money and training possibility as the Danish team, this is an exploit.

Biggest newspaper in Swedem (Aftonbladet) compare this win with the hocky game USA - CCCP 1980 when amateurs beat Russia.

Facts:

Ålborg: Budget 2.5 milion Euros, many of the players have monthly salary up to 10.000 - 11.500 Euros and are full pro players.

Sävehof: Budget 180.000 Euros, not one singel pro player in the team, they have ordinary jobs on day time or study.




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now, that's a nice david vs goliath story.. :D
I wonder how will Aalborg's coach explain this :roll:
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Postby Milica » Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:54 am

Burki wrote:Congrat to Sävehof :D biggest success ever for swedish female club handball :thumright: coach still cant catch the reality and think he dreams.


YES, It's amazing historical success for Sävehof!

It's great to see some fresh blood in CL, so I CONGRATULATE them for making their dream come true!!! ;)
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Postby Joppe » Mon Oct 01, 2007 12:06 pm

Jessen wrote:
Out and in EHF-cup is suprisingly this big clubs:

Aalborg DH
Sagunto (what did they do in this weekend? )
Motor Zaparosje
Byaasen


Yes its suprisingly that neither Aalborg nor Motor is in CL. Byåsen and Sagunto lost to better teams. So thats not a suprise.

And Burki i think you underestimate Larvik, they are far better this year, and Tonje Larsen is NOT injured anymore!! She may be our "joker" in the WC :D

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Postby TIHANA SARIC FAN » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:22 pm

Kelon wrote:Barbaros - is Spanish ? I have to say that i havent seen from long time such dynamic and quick second line player. Im very very impressed


She is Portuguese, also plays for NT of Portugal and she is wanted by the best clubs of Europe.

Considering the financial problems in Sagunto IMO we will se her soon in team like Viborg ;)

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Postby Scarf » Mon Oct 01, 2007 1:58 pm

Few months ago it was a rumor in romanian newspapers that Oltchim wants Barbosa after Romania played with Portugal in the qualifiers for WC. Tadici liked the way she played but her trasfer wasn't done because she was under contract with Astroc and they didn't want to sell her.. but now who knows if they are in financial crises..

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Postby alexo » Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:53 pm

Burki wrote:1. Hypo Niederösterreich
2. HC Kometal Gjorče Petrov
3. Larvik HK
4. HC "Lada Togliatti"

Vary hard group, Kometal wos seeded in pot 2 for the CL drow but didint gett much benefit out of it, unfortunately. Kometal have the weakest line up since 1995/1996 and it will be hard task to even make CWC, will be between Larvik and Kometal. Hypo look very strong during the preperation games and Lada last yars finalist did toy with the Polish home team and also with the Spanish team.


Don`t be afraid of Kometal this season......
I`m very sad that I have to say this,but I`m trying to be,and I must be, reasonable... :( :cry: :pale: :cry:
With this season team,we don`t have a chance to win a game in Skopje...I don`t need to speak about wining in Toljati or Wien or Larvik.... :( :pale: :cry:

It`s realy sad to see a team who played 3 finals in 6 seasons,to finish like this...,because of bad club politics...and spoiled persons in players like Ozel and Amorim :evil: :x
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Postby Goran » Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:55 pm

alexo wrote:It`s realy sad to see a team who played 3 finals in 6 seasons,to finish like this..


Worse is coming! (unfortunately) :cry:

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Postby Burki » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:48 pm

Joppe wrote:Jessen wrote:
Out and in EHF-cup is suprisingly this big clubs:

Aalborg DH
Sagunto (what did they do in this weekend? )
Motor Zaparosje
Byaasen


Yes its suprisingly that neither Aalborg nor Motor is in CL. Byåsen and Sagunto lost to better teams. So thats not a suprise.

And Burki i think you underestimate Larvik, they are far better this year, and Tonje Larsen is NOT injured anymore!! She may be our "joker" in the WC :D



I dont underestimate Larvik, think i wos short of information when it comes to Larvik -))), cos of that my new verdict is: Kometal will be on 4th place 100%


However Kometal Fans, even if it looks poor at this moment we still need to keep the future faith. Sävehof is an good exampel that money do not always rule, sometimes unelievable team spirit can also give results.

Sävehof is a story for its own, Sävehof hade hade to low europ ranking to even take part in the first qualifying tournament, Sävehof wos given the place as reserve since one of the team did withdrow from the first qualifying tournament, Sävehof didint even expect to make it from the first qualifying tournament, they sow this event as funny thing.

So, i told this so people could understand what Sävehof achieved, its just unelievable what Sävehof have done during the second qualifying tournament, they didint even expect to make it from the first.

hopefully this is the turning point for female clubs in sweden, hopefully sponsors will open up the eyes.

Sävehof is one of the biggest handball surprise ever.

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Postby TheDane » Mon Oct 01, 2007 3:58 pm

Burki wrote:Ålborg: Budget 2.5 milion Euros, many of the players have monthly salary up to 10.000 - 11.500 Euros and are full pro players.

Sävehof: Budget 180.000 Euros, not one singel pro player in the team, they have ordinary jobs on day time or study.

There's a lot of players in the best Danish league who has half time jobs or studies besides handball. In fact most Danish players in the league do. I'm sure there's some in Aalborg DH's team too. Rikke Nielsen for example is a nurse I know.

Anyway Aalborg plays like the are all amateurs, also the coach and the mangement - epscially them. The coach wont last long in Aalborg if things don't change very quick.

According to Aftonbladet, Aalborg's budget is "only" 10 times that of Sävehof. In sport, teams often beat other teams with ten times their own budget. It's not that uncommon at all.
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Postby Drochlar » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:01 pm

Burki wrote:Congrat to Sävehof :D biggest success ever for swedish female club handball :thumright: coach still cant catch the reality and think he dreams.

SVT 24 did sign contract immediately, so 6 more CL games on TV :D first pair out is Sävehof - Krim.

Sävehof really did something amazing, Sävehof is an amateur semi pro club who knock out full pro teams, Sävehof dont even have 5% of the money and training possibility as the Danish team, this is an exploit.

Biggest newspaper in Swedem (Aftonbladet) compare this win with the hocky game USA - CCCP 1980 when amateurs beat Russia.

Facts:

Ålborg: Budget 2.5 milion Euros, many of the players have monthly salary up to 10.000 - 11.500 Euros and are full pro players.

Sävehof: Budget 180.000 Euros, not one singel pro player in the team, they have ordinary jobs on day time or study.




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Glädjetårar Sävehofs damer tog sig oväntat till Champions League, vilket är en av de största skrällarna i svensk handboll någonsin.
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Sävehof till Champions League: ”Största sensationen någonsin”

Amatörerna från Partille slog ut fullblodsproffsen från Danmark och Ukraina.

Nu är Sävehof som första svenska damlag någonsin klara för Champions League.

– Detta är den största sensationen genom tiderna i svensk handboll, säger Per Johansson, damförbundskapten och SVT:s expert.

Det är lätt att ta till överord när svenska lag lyckas i europaspel.

Men inte den här gången.

Hör bara:

Sävehof hade egentligen inte ens rätt att vara med i kvalet till Champions League då Sverige är så lågt rankat.

Men då Schweiz representant drog sig ur fick Sävehof chansen och åkte för en månad sedan till ett förkval där ett av fyra lag skulle gå vidare till nästa kval.

– Vi tänkte att vi kanske hade en liten, liten chans att ta oss vidare därifrån, säger Pär Jilsén, assisterande tränare.
Toppmotstånd

Sävehof tog chansen och i helgen var det dags för nästa gruppkval i Grekland mot danska storlaget Ålborg, ukrainska proffsen Zaporozhye och grekiska Patras.

Efter förlust mot ukrainskorna, segrar mot danskorna och grekiskorna samt en målskillnadsaffär var skrällen ett faktum.

– Vi är ett amatörlag med en snittålder på 21 år som slår ut fullblodsproffsen, säger Jilsén.

Ålborg omsätter cirka 20 miljoner kronor om året att jämföra med Sävehofs damlags drygt två miljoner.

Flera av de danska spelarna tjänar över 100 000 kronor i månaden medan ingen i Sävehof ens är proffs.
”Som OS 1980”

– Det här går att jämföra med USA:s hockeylag som slog Sovjet i OS 1980.

Våra tjejer sliter som djur för varandra och danskorna kom efteråt och var avundsjuka på den inställning vi har.

Nu är Sävehof ett av 16 lag i Champions League.

– Detta är den största sensationen genom tiderna i svensk handboll. Jag förstår inte hur det gått till, säger Per Johansson, assisterande damförbundskapten och SVT:s expert Johan Flinck.


Största skrällarna i svensk handboll:

1. Sävehofs damer går till Champions League 2007.

2. Drott slår ut Barcelona i Europacupens kvartsfinal 1989.

3. Damlandslaget vinner borta mot Tyskland och blir klara för VM 2001.

4. RIK slår ut tyska Lemgo i Cupvinnarcupens semifinal 2003.

5. Sävehof slår Kiel hemma i Champions League-gruppspelet 2004.


This post sums up why Gautestad should get fired immediately. One thing is that ADH lost to Sävehof, but they lost by SIX goals for crying out loud. :evil: And they were down by 11 at one time. But I am actually quite sure that Gautestad doesn't get fired, because ADH's board of direction have proven time and time again, that they are a bunch of amateurs. :roll:

By the way congratulations to Sävehof they deserved it.

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Postby Timmy » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:19 pm

And I must say that i was very surprised when I read the statement from ADH's assistant coach in the newspaper Nordjyske. He said that they could travel back home withe their heads up high because the match against Motor gave them a good feeling. And that the result uf the trip to Greece was a big step up for the team. Has he been drinking??? They are out of the CL and the match against Motor was just awful. What criterias are they working by???
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Postby Drochlar » Mon Oct 01, 2007 5:24 pm

Timmy wrote:And I must say that i was very surprised when I read the statement from ADH's assistant coach in the newspaper Nordjyske. He said that they could travel back home withe their heads up high because the match against Motor gave them a good feeling. And that the result uf the trip to greece was a big step up for the team. Has he been drinking??? They are out of the CL and the match against Motor was just awful. What criterias are they working by???


I will just say that I'm glad that I'm not a fan of ADH anymore, I actually stopped supporting the club when they fired Dalmose, a man who can get results! The club is run by morons who probably think this is an acceptable result too. :roll:

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Postby mikh » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:25 am

A beautiful Cinderella story for Savehof. I really hope that their beautiful dream won't be over here. Big congratulations to them!

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Postby red and white » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:25 am

There are rumours saying that a team has withdrawn from the Champions league. Anybody knows which one?

According to Byåsen´s homepage, they received a letter about this prior to the qualificationround, so it´s probably not LADA, Oltchim, Sävehof or Györ.

Maybe Nürnberg?

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Postby Neo » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:49 am

red and white wrote:There are rumours saying that a team has withdrawn from the Champions league.


Rumor has it :)
How can Byasen recive a invitation letter from EHF to play in CL and EHF dosen't announce nothing on their official page ?
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Postby Timmy » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:29 pm

Neo wrote:
red and white wrote:There are rumours saying that a team has withdrawn from the Champions league.


Rumor has it :)
How can Byasen recive a invitation letter from EHF to play in CL and EHF dosen't announce nothing on their official page ?


We can read about this in todays newspapers. It says that its concerning one of the teams that was directly quaified to the CL.
How is the situation for Cementos these days? Any spanish comments?
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Postby doomark » Fri Oct 05, 2007 1:46 pm

red and white wrote:There are rumours saying that a team has withdrawn from the Champions league. Anybody knows which one?

According to Byåsen´s homepage, they received a letter about this prior to the qualificationround, so it´s probably not LADA, Oltchim, Sävehof or Györ.

Maybe Nürnberg?


I guess so, too.

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Postby gs » Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:15 pm

doomark wrote:
red and white wrote:There are rumours saying that a team has withdrawn from the Champions league. Anybody knows which one?

According to Byåsen´s homepage, they received a letter about this prior to the qualificationround, so it´s probably not LADA, Oltchim, Sävehof or Györ.

Maybe Nürnberg?


I guess so, too.


Why do you think it is Nurnberg?

Will place in qualification or seeding decide who will be the new team. Byåsen or Aalborg?

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Postby meteo » Fri Oct 05, 2007 4:29 pm

Neo wrote:
red and white wrote:There are rumours saying that a team has withdrawn from the Champions league.


Rumor has it :)
How can Byasen recive a invitation letter from EHF to play in CL and EHF dosen't announce nothing on their official page ?


That is quite normal. The clubs that could replace these teams were informed first and if you have a substitute than you inform everyone else.

Nuremberg makes sense, if you have in mind their financial problems at the end of the last season. But it doesn't make sense to withdraw at this moment, except you need the calculated money for the CL to pay another player. Maybe the light injuries that Wohlbold and Sommerlund suffered on Wednesday, let them change their mind.
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Postby zmagovalec » Fri Oct 05, 2007 8:15 pm

Yesterday the EHF confirmed two dates of the home games from Nürnberg. Why should it make this, if Nürnberg decided before the quali-round not to take part on it? That doesn`t make sense ...


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