CL 2007/2008 - Round 3

Esik · Postby **Esik** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:07 pm

red and white wrote:I´m surprised to see how good Roslyng is Six goals today on seven attempts and very nice goals too. Two of them were kempa-shots(if that is what it´s called? Help me out Danes, what is "et vip" in English?)

Yes, Viborg is not very organized. They look so confused, but they have enough individualists to probably make it to the final. We´ll see. But I´m pretty sure they will improve - they have to!

Ferencvaros has good wings and decent pivots, but the backcourt is simply too inexperienced. They are not physical strong enough. Nemeth is a very clever old lady by the way. I like her

Yep. Ferencváros starting back are 17(Zácsik), 19(Szucsánszki) and the 22 years old Soós is a real grandma there

red and white · Postby **red and white** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:07 pm

Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote: Help me out Danes, what is "et vip" in English?)

Do you think on "zepelin" ?

Don´t know what a Zepelin is, so maybe

I think it´s called Kempa-trick in German..

Bo$ko · Postby **Bo$ko** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:09 pm

red and white wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote: Help me out Danes, what is "et vip" in English?)

Do you think on "zepelin" ?

Don´t know what a Zepelin is, so maybe I think it´s called Kempa-trick in German..

Here we call kind of atractive goal like that... so maybe it is same thing.

Mads W · Postby **Mads W** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:14 pm

PLayer A tosses the ball into a free space. Player B sets off and jumps for the ball, grabs it in the air, and shoots.

Hmm not a very good explaination, but you get the idea, right ?

Bo$ko · Postby **Bo$ko** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:15 pm

Mads W bravo

now we got it ...

Drochlar · Postby **Drochlar** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:16 pm

Rasmus wrote:
ozi wrote:I never fully undetstood why Danes complain about Viborg coach...today I see why...he actualy manages to make Jurack look like a below average player ( if I havent seen before what she is capable of...today I would thought that she is the most overrated player). I can guarantee that these girls would play better without any coach.
NT Montenegro is gonna be very good with Tiselj as a coach and Popovic in the team.

Well for some it takes a little bit longer to get
Don't kick yourself... the Viborg-board haven't realized it yet either.

Some coaches have the great ability to get a 100% from the players.

Ryde has the great ability to only get 30% out of his players potential.
So it cost Viborg 170% in budget to make up for their terrible coaching.

Ryde is making his players use a lot of time and strenght on things of no importance.
Defence - Defence - Defence... it's all Ryde needs to concentrate on. With players like this... Viborg will never have trouble with scoring... so forget the attack and focus on the defence... Ryde you suck. You suck big time

14-18... Jesus Christ... FTC shouldn't have scored above 8 goals.

I completely agree. Ryde is so weak a coach that it is not even funny. He is by far the worst coach in the Danish League followed by Gautestad who is just as clearly in second place. :lol:

Drochlar · Postby **Drochlar** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:19 pm

Esik wrote:
Rasmus wrote:
ozi wrote:I never fully undetstood why Danes complain about Viborg coach...today I see why...he actualy manages to make Jurack look like a below average player ( if I havent seen before what she is capable of...today I would thought that she is the most overrated player). I can guarantee that these girls would play better without any coach.
NT Montenegro is gonna be very good with Tiselj as a coach and Popovic in the team.

Well for some it takes a little bit longer to get
Don't kick yourself... the Viborg-board haven't realized it yet either.

Some coaches have the great ability to get a 100% from the players.

Ryde has the great ability to only get 30% out of his players potential.
So it cost Viborg 170% in budget to make up for their terrible coaching.

Ryde is making his players use a lot of time and strenght on things of no importance.
Defence - Defence - Defence... it's all Ryde needs to concentrate on. With players like this... Viborg will never have trouble with scoring... so forget the attack and focus on the defence... Ryde you suck. You suck big time

14-18... Jesus Christ... FTC shouldn't have scored above 8 goals.

Ferencáros players are afraid to make fouls against Popovic, and basicly most of the first half they played with a very soft defense. In attack they are afraid even to look at Viborg's goal. They scored 14...because Viborg does not have any defense. I'm not kidding: I did not see any team playing worse defense including all league and CL games...and even the prepearing games this year. Not kidding.

I don't think Ryde knows the meaning of the word defense, that might explain why Viborg plays '6-0 defense with holes' as I prefer to call it. :roll:

Rasmus · Postby **Rasmus** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:22 pm

Grit, Bojana, Rikke and Kristine. It's not the players fault... the defence doesn't work. I really don't think Ryde gives the defence a lot of time during training sessions.

After the last match in the Toms Liga... Ryde was still clueless and focusing only in the attack:

"I Esbjerg spiller vi med godt flow i angrebsspillet. Bojana sætter spillet flot, Grit er godt skydende, og fløjene har vist stor skarphed på det seneste. Vi går efter at lægge et tungt pres på ungarerne og spille os frem til 100% chancer. Vi tror på to point i Budapest, selvom de sikkert hungrer efter at give deres fanatiske hjemmepublikum en sejr.", udtaler Tomas Ryde.

The man himself. Someone should give him a book for handball-dumies :lol:

Esbjerg only managed to score 22 goals against VHK, but Ryde wasn't on the bench he was sick (Yeah tell me something I don't know :roll:

)
Still 22 goals are ok... Viborg should be able to keep some opponents under 20 goals... especially with Lunde/Due in goal.

Roslyng. Woman of the match in Hungary.

Bo$ko · Postby **Bo$ko** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:23 pm

I saw this photo 10 second ago :lol:

Sweet Boki :!:

zmagovalec · Postby **zmagovalec** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:41 pm

Does anybody see Sävehof vs. Nürnberg? Or maybe livescore?

Spiller · Postby **Spiller** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:44 pm

Livescore Sävehof v Nürnberg:

http://svt.se/svttext/web/pages/388.html

draggtin · Postby **draggtin** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:45 pm

Rasmus: perhaps ryde has a different tactic (one that seems to work so far): he tries to make the team a brasilian team. one who scores more goals than the adversary. can you deny this kind of thinking?

zmagovalec · Postby **zmagovalec** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:45 pm

hvala - thanks

zmagovalec · Postby **zmagovalec** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:51 pm

Sävehof - Nürnberg 36-34 (17-13)

finished?

swbet · Postby **swbet** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:54 pm

zmagovalec wrote:Sävehof - Nürnberg 36-34 (17-13)

finished?

Yes...It`s FT.

Rasmus · Postby **Rasmus** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:56 pm

draggtin wrote:Rasmus: perhaps ryde has a different tactic (one that seems to work so far): he tries to make the team a brasilian team. one who scores more goals than the adversary. can you deny this kind of thinking?

Than he should go to Brazil and coach some team on the beach.

He's making my favourite team into Real Madrid and I'm not liking it. Handball is played both ways... defensive as well as offensive.

Mads W · Postby **Mads W** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:54 pm

Rasmus wrote:
draggtin wrote:Rasmus: perhaps ryde has a different tactic (one that seems to work so far): he tries to make the team a brasilian team. one who scores more goals than the adversary. can you deny this kind of thinking?

Than he should go to Brazil and coach some team on the beach.

He's making my favourite team into Real Madrid and I'm not liking it. Handball is played both ways... defensive as well as offensive.

I have some thoughts on that mentioned in one of my latest posts in this thread. You and other Viborg fans have my sympathy. I used to like Viborg too... But given the circumstances with the management and the crazy buy-out tactics that is simply not possible for me anymore.

carrera · Postby **carrera** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:21 pm

after gyor-podravka, all I can say is: Gorbicz iz really great! Palinger also! it was really nice, i saw doomark and i have new issue of Time out magazine! weeeeee 8:)

TheDane · Postby **TheDane** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:22 pm

Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote: Help me out Danes, what is "et vip" in English?)

Do you think on "zepelin" ?

Don´t know what a Zepelin is, so maybe I think it´s called Kempa-trick in German..

Here we call kind of atractive goal like that... so maybe it is same thing.

This is what he's talking about: http://www.dhk.no/video/fem_flygere.wmv
This one is just a 5 times vip/Kempa/Zeppelin :!:

doomark · Postby **doomark** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:07 pm

carrera wrote:after gyor-podravka, all I can say is: Gorbicz iz really great! Palinger also! it was really nice, i saw doomark and i have new issue of Time out magazine! weeeeee

Greetings back, carrera! ;-)

See you in Koprivnica in early January!!

Milica · Postby **Milica** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:30 pm

TheDane wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote: Help me out Danes, what is "et vip" in English?)

Do you think on "zepelin" ?

Don´t know what a Zepelin is, so maybe I think it´s called Kempa-trick in German..

Here we call kind of atractive goal like that... so maybe it is same thing.

This is what he's talking about: http://www.dhk.no/video/fem_flygere.wmv
This one is just a 5 times vip/Kempa/Zeppelin

Oh yes, this is definitely a 5 x ZEPPELIN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Joppe · Postby **Joppe** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:15 am

TheDane wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote: Help me out Danes, what is "et vip" in English?)

Do you think on "zepelin" ?

Don´t know what a Zepelin is, so maybe I think it´s called Kempa-trick in German..

Here we call kind of atractive goal like that... so maybe it is same thing.

This is what he's talking about: http://www.dhk.no/video/fem_flygere.wmv
This one is just a 5 times vip/Kempa/Zeppelin

This one is from the norwegian male league. Its actually Drammen who played a good match against Flensburg in CL today! lost with 2, in a close, close match. In norwegian we call that "flyver"(flight).

timus · Postby **timus** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:52 am

Joppe wrote:
TheDane wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:
red and white wrote: Help me out Danes, what is "et vip" in English?)

Do you think on "zepelin" ?

Don´t know what a Zepelin is, so maybe I think it´s called Kempa-trick in German..

Here we call kind of atractive goal like that... so maybe it is same thing.

This is what he's talking about: http://www.dhk.no/video/fem_flygere.wmv
This one is just a 5 times vip/Kempa/Zeppelin

This one is from the norwegian male league. Its actually Drammen who played a good match against Flensburg in CL today! lost with 2, in a close, close match. In norwegian we call that "flyver"(flight).

I don't know why, but here in Hungary it is called "chinese figure"

Postby **mikh** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:30 am

In Romanian it's called "aeriana" (a flier, a flight), simillar to the Norwegian name.

itwas82 · Postby **itwas82** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:11 pm

In Korea, we call it "sky shot". I've misunderstood it was an internationally common term.
Quite interesting to exchange different 'culture' within handball.

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