2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

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2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby bajkalb » Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:50 pm

So, here is round 3:

28.10.2016:
CSM - Győr

29.10.2016:
Rostov-Don - Midtjylland

29.10.2016:
Astrakhanocka - HC Vardar:

29.10.2016:
FTC - HC Leipzig:

29.10.2016:
RK Krim - IK Savehof:

30.10.2016:
Thüringer HC - Buducnost:

30.10.2016:
Glassverket - Metz Handball:

30.10.2016:
Esbjerg - Larvik:



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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby Gojira » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:10 pm

CSM - Győr

Rostov-Don - Midtjylland

Astrakhanocka - HC Vardar

FTC - HC Leipzig

RK Krim - IK Savehof

Thüringer HC - Buducnost

Glassverket - Metz Handball

Esbjerg - Larvik

Poor guesses I know :D

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby dydiana » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:57 pm

Ahahaha @Gojira, I guess nobody can really make guesses this season :lol:

Not even the bookies, see what happened to their favorite little Rostov: 2 games - 2 losses.
Of course they can bounce back but if FCM also beats them I will ask them to cut the bullsh*t with this overrated team.
Rostov reminds me a bit of Vardar, only that Vardar did enter the Final 4 and got a decent 3rd place. Rostov is just overrated and overrun. I can't really stand these before hand opinions and exaggerations. Of course they have really good players but thats not enough. Same for Vardar. I guess for both teams a really big problem is the coach.

Anyway, let's get to the topic of this thread :P

    CSM Bucureşti - Gyor
    Gyor is the stronger team regarding the 9m line. With Mork,Groot and Amorim in good day they can be lethal. And if you add Loke and Grimsbo the deal seems sealed. Since our Bella isnt scoring a lot lately, Torstenson is not so successful in attack, with a wobbly Niombla and a shy Ayglon on RB (where I would try more Brădeanu, maybe she can help),forced by the injury of Line, I do am afraid of our attack play and guess no one really gives us many chances of beating "the big dragon" :lol: But I am confident the girls will be motivated to show their skills in front of Gyor and fight for their crown and fans who support them. I wont be surprised nor upset if they dont succeed a home win, I am aware of how good Gyor is this season and that we dont have a good period :?


    Rostov - Midtjylland
    I want the danish girls to win :D I really am against the over-the-sky lobby people (journalists/specialists) make for Rostov. I always am against the wave people expect to surf on, so I will cheer for FCM even though they beat a sh*tty CSM :P


    Astrakhanochka - Vardar
    If Vardar gets a coach until this game happens, he/she still doesnt have time to implement something. I think Vardar will win this, and if they dont it wont be a surprise since Vardar can make themselves look like struggling newbies sometimes (a lot of times) :lol:


    FTC - Leipzig
    FTC win :P


    Krim - Savehof
    I tend to say Savehof will win this, but I wouldnt be surprised if Krim will either.


    Thuringer - Buducnost
    With Neagu back, but still not at her full potential, Buducnost will win without many emotions and they can still give minutes to their youngsters like they did with Glassverket. Thuringer will not be too easy, they have CL experience unlike the norwegians, but Buducnost is still Buducnost :P


    Glassverket - Metz
    Metz seems a bit better, but anyone can win. I cant predict this since I dont know the teams at all.


    Esbjerg - Larvik
    This scandinavian duel will be essential for Larvik. If they lose this, they are out and about :lol: But this time I give Larvik the win, since they should have an ego boost and fight for their lives.

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby bobix » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:20 pm

Hi folks!

This is my first post on this forum, hopefully many more will follow :)

My predictions for the 3rd round look like below:

CSM - Győr
I would say away win, but CSM will have their say for sure. They might not be at their best, and missing a world class player, but on home ground should be well able to trouble the opposition with the right attitude. On the other hand Győr looks like a very strong candidate (not a surprise) for winning the trophy, albeit many things can happen until spring. But at the moment definitely they are the team to beat, Mörk integrated very quick and very well, after Bulatovic the Hungarian powerhouse finally have a world class RB. Surely the match of the weekend.

Astrakhanocka - Vardar
As a FTC supporter I was watching this match, the Russians were simply outclassed, the goal difference could have been even more, but there were too much technical faults on the home side. Even if I take into account the situation Vardar is in at the moment, I cannot see anything but an away win here.

Krim - Savehof
Kind of difficult to predict, but I would say another away win :) Savehof have some interesting and good players, not sure what Larvik did in the second half against Krim (did not have time yet to watch the match). I'm mainly looking at this as a punter, and seeing Savehof as an underdog I'm happy to take it.

FTC - Leipzig
Home win :p

Rostov - Midtjylland
Interesting one... would not be surprised at all by seeing Midtjylland troubling an imo bit overrated side, but a home win looks more likely.

Thuringer - Buducnost
Should be an away win, Buducnost has to make sure to finish this group with 10-12 points, before the main round. Even if playing away, the difference in quality is way too much.

Glassverket - Metz
I fancy Metz here, they have some good and seasoned players (from the French national team as well). Imo the Norwegians does not posses enough experience and quality to do anything special in this group.

Esbjerg - Larvik
Another interesting duel, a quite difficult one for Larvik, who will play for their lives. Was looking at Esbjerg's matches, it seems they are careful and patient in attacks, making sure to barely give the ball away. Larvik's main weapon are the fast counters, without that (and now also without Nora) they will lack the power and creativity to unlock the Esbjerg defense. Home win.

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby van_persil » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:18 pm

CSM - Győr

Rostov-Don - Midtjylland

Astrakhanocka - HC Vardar

FTC - HC Leipzig

RK Krim - IK Savehof

Thüringer HC - Buducnost

Glassverket - Metz Handball

Esbjerg - Larvik draw

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby Jig » Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:10 am

CSM - Győr 23-25
Rostov-Don - Midtjylland 27-23
Astrakhanocka - HC Vardar 24-32
FTC - HC Leipzig 31-26
RK Krim - IK Savehof 29-28
Thüringer HC - Buducnost 22-26
Glassverket - Metz Handball 20-24
Esbjerg - Larvik 28-26
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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby jensm » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:52 pm

CSM - Gyor 23-27
Rostov Don - FCM 28-21
Astrakhanocka - Vardar 19-26
FTC - Leipzig 31-25
Krim - Savehof 25-25
Thuringer - Buducnost 24-27
Glassverket - Metz 21-26
Team Esbjerg - Larvik 24-25

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby Mixball » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:32 pm

My guesses for this round : (Aargh you beat me with same results jensm #-o :-" )

CSM - Győr 23-23
Rostov-Don - Midtjylland 23-21
Astrakhanocka - HC Vardar 21-29
FTC - HC Leipzig 34-26
RK Krim - IK Savehof 25-25
Thüringer HC - Buducnost 23-28
Glassverket - Metz Handball 22-24
Esbjerg - Larvik 25-26

Larvik for a win because we are missing out Mr007's juicy pictures :lol: -(or maybe James got doped to much on those tranquilizers not reading the warnings on the package thoroughly :lol: :lol: ;) )
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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby gergő » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:34 pm

CSM - Győr 2
Rostov-Don - Midtjylland 2
Astrakhanocka - HC Vardar 9
FTC - HC Leipzig 12
RK Krim - IK Savehof x
Thüringer HC - Buducnost 6
Glassverket - Metz Handball 2
Esbjerg - Larvik 3

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby Nitro » Thu Oct 27, 2016 9:58 pm

CSM - Győr

Rostov-Don - Midtjylland

Astrakhanocka - HC Vardar

FTC - HC Leipzig

RK Krim - IK Savehof

Thüringer HC - Buducnost

Glassverket - Metz Handball

Esbjerg - Larvik
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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby eduardsson » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:27 pm

Gheorghe Tadici wrote:Expect super motivated CSM!


Even so, it won't be enough.

Gyor are clearly the best team this session. CSM importantly weakened.

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby gergő » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:36 pm

eto did only one proper training session since the rostov game. it may be an advantage for the home side. i dunno. anyway choose this friday match (day) was a smart move in this case. :)

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby dydiana » Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:51 pm

gergő wrote:eto did only one proper training session since the rostov game. it may be an advantage for the home side. i dunno. anyway choose this friday match (day) was a smart move in this case. :)


You mean just training? Cause they had the official game against Budaors on tuesday, just like CSM had against Vâlcea.

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby beny » Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:12 pm

CSM-Gyor: not big expectations but big disappointment ! Perfect first half followed by a little disaster; I'm sad but this is the sport. Decisive move was sending Amorim in the atack; Niombla - poor;

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby John » Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:35 pm

Gyor is underperforming.
Groot and Mork are horrible from the start of the season and Loke is invisible. Gorbicz is a shadow but this is ok i mean the women is close to retiring, had a baby, she had so many fanstastic seasons.
On the other hand Amorim and Bodi are playing superb from the start.
Some things i don't understand, why did Martin change his defensive tactics to 6-0, Gyor had a perfect one last season? And why oh why didn't Amorim play from the start? What is Groot doing on left back, Gorbicz also? And why the hell would you send an inexperienced player like Toth to play in such an important match when you're losing. Not to mentions that she came back from a serious injury. And where is Tomori?

CSM was brave, but with the limited backline i didn't expect much. I like CSM but to be honest the first half was more Gyor playing like sh*t rather than CSM playing fantastic. And they need to get rid of grannies already. We already have Larvik for that.


No team impressed me in these first rounds. Everyone is underperforming.

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby dydiana » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:00 pm

Last year CSM went to Main round with 5 points and qualified from fourth spot into QFs. We still have 6 points to play for, so things aren't that bad. Keep working on our game, especially attack, and we will get to it right when we need to, hopefully :)

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby Jig » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:53 pm

John wrote:Gyor is underperforming.
Groot and Mork are horrible from the start of the season and Loke is invisible. Gorbicz is a shadow but this is ok i mean the women is close to retiring, had a baby, she had so many fanstastic seasons.
On the other hand Amorim and Bodi are playing superb from the start.
Some things i don't understand, why did Martin change his defensive tactics to 6-0, Gyor had a perfect one last season? And why oh why didn't Amorim play from the start? What is Groot doing on left back, Gorbicz also? And why the hell would you send an inexperienced player like Toth to play in such an important match when you're losing. Not to mentions that she came back from a serious injury. And where is Tomori?

CSM was brave, but with the limited backline i didn't expect much. I like CSM but to be honest the first half was more Gyor playing like sh*t rather than CSM playing fantastic. And they need to get rid of grannies already. We already have Larvik for that.


No team impressed me in these first rounds. Everyone is underperforming.


Gyor is underperforming? Groot and Mork are horrible? Loke is invisible? Gorbicz retiring?

Pff... 3 match -> 6 point! Victory in Russia and Romania! 8:) 8:) 8:)

Tomori injured...
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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby John » Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:18 am

Jig wrote:Gyor is underperforming? Groot and Mork are horrible? Loke is invisible? Gorbicz retiring?

Pff... 3 match -> 6 point! Victory in Russia and Romania!

Tomori injured...


Read my post again ;)

And a victory doesn't mean that a team plays good. Groot and Mork are disasters, Amorim saved Gyor.

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby Nitro » Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:05 am

Well Györ is playing in the toughest group by far, is unbeaten in 3 games and has beaten 2 of the favorites for the title already...away! Even when they are not at their best atm, this will be hard to top. And in the end victories and points count. I don't say they win the CL but I bet they will be in the final 4.
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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby Bo$ko » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:44 am

Gyor indeed wasn't impressive but who cares... they won!
Don't get offended but Gyor really was bad in some moments. Groot playing her 2nd season and is totally out of form. Gorbe a shadow of old one we all know, but she needs some time.
Amorim started to play in 2nd half and CSM didn't have a chance. Mork too many turnovers and too selfish for a team full of stars. Anyway, she found her game with some passes to Loke and Bodi in 2nd half.
CSM lost in space with new coach and poor signings. They should risk more and integrate Bazaliu in team asap... Lots of 30+ players #-o
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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby John » Sat Oct 29, 2016 10:47 am

Well, CSM achieved their goal, they won CL, they can have the luxury to let Bazaliu play more. Maybe this season is not their season they can also have that luxury because from next season they will have a killer backline with Neagu, Gullden and Jorgensen plus potentially Cvijic as LP. They need to get rid of Varzaru, Bradeanu, Curea, Ayglon and maybe Torstenson for next season and work more with Bazaliu. I would also replace Vestergaard i don't know why they brought him in the first place. Some things i never understood and that is the romanian club obsessions with Vestergaard, Vetkova, Lobach..

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby Svevelikiznalci » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:24 am

Why Lobach?? She is doing a waaay better job then Manea till now.

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby Nitro » Sat Oct 29, 2016 11:40 am

Most interesting odds today

Astrakhanocka 18-1 to beat Vardar
Midtjylland 10-1 to beat Rostov

I take a shot 8:)
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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby dydiana » Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:45 pm

John wrote:Well, CSM achieved their goal, they won CL, they can have the luxury to let Bazaliu play more. Maybe this season is not their season they can also have that luxury because from next season they will have a killer backline with Neagu, Gullden and Jorgensen plus potentially Cvijic as LP. They need to get rid of Varzaru, Bradeanu, Curea, Ayglon and maybe Torstenson for next season and work more with Bazaliu. I would also replace Vestergaard i don't know why they brought him in the first place. Some things i never understood and that is the romanian club obsessions with Vestergaard, Vetkova, Lobach..


Romanians are kinda selfish after they achieve something big. They get hit by this new sensation of being on top and they want more and more. Thats why you will not see us risking playing in CL with Bazaliu yet. Ok, Rasmussen let her play against Midtjylland and also did Vestergaard, but that was because of despair, and she was the last option to try for something to go better in those moments.

If Neagu comes next season, and Gullden stays with us, it will be such a dream come true. Like, it gives me goosebumps right now while writing it. You have no idea how much Im waiting for Cris to come home and play for us. She achieved in 2015 her dream with Buducnost and she will always appreciate what they did for her in the worst period of her career. But she also gave back a lot, meaning she worked hard for the team. I do feel its time for her to come home, especially with Buducnost wanting to form the youngsters into stronger players, so maybe that means sacrificing a couple years in the CL, who knows. So Neagu cant really afford going through that, because shes gonna be 29 next year and I think she deserves another CL title. Im not saying she will for sure get it with CSM, but it will be awesome if she does that with the home team too.

I hope things stay stable in CSM and we will keep Bella,Carmen,Gruba,Paula,Majda,get Ana Paula back and sign Cris. And, as almost everyone says, get rid of Vărzaru and Curea to get some decent younger Romanian wings for back up.

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Re: 2016/17 Champions League - Group Phase - Round 3

Postby gergő » Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:50 pm

eto like a champ. shitty play but still win. bódi runing a damn good period nowadays (rostov 4/4, csm 6/8), görbicz waking up (imho she won the game against rostov along with some nasty grimsbo saves). kiss was excellent. duda got 2 suspension within 10 minutes, so needed the forgot her in defense which meaned she was sitting on the bench because lb position was on the long side in the first half so it wouldnt have been smart to give her a credit that time. at least she was fresh in the 2nd and crushed the romanian dreams like an mvp. mork was a bit mørk* yesterday :D groot as well. but only in offense. she did a damn good job as a central defender (replaced amorim) next to broch.


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