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Mens CL 2007/08

Postby meteo » Wed May 30, 2007 10:32 am

Austrian Team Bregenz has on their website the actual ranking of the Mens CL for 2007/08

Teams 1-24 are already qualified for the group phase while the teams from 25-32 will be drawn against a team from 33-40.


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Postby Pilmans » Sat Jun 02, 2007 8:47 am

Seems like HC Vardar Pro are serious this time, the sponsor will invest more money and better players will arrive and many old onece who are not good enough will have to leave..

Naum Mojsovski hade good offers from abroad but decided to stay two more years, the Serb Ivan Lapcevic (who have playd for several europ gaints, latest Hungaryan Fotex Vezprem ) and the Romanian Roman Zurka from RK Zagreb are bothe close to sign, a part from these two HC Vardar will look for 3 up to 5 more quality players and one of them will be goolkeeper.

Veselin Vujovic are the HC Vardar coach, so he have dubbel job in Macedonia.

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Postby Picek » Sat Jun 02, 2007 2:17 pm

Pilmans wrote: and the Romanian Roman Zurka from RK Zagreb are bothe close to sign, .
as far as I know he signed a contract with a slovenian club but I can't remember which one..
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Postby mikh » Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:44 pm

It's actually Rares Jurca.

But the media here said 2 months ago he signed with Kadetten Schaffhausen. It's awckward that you know something else. Please keep us informed.

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Postby Pilmans » Sun Jun 03, 2007 7:17 am

mikh wrote:It's actually Rares Jurca.

But the media here said 2 months ago he signed with Kadetten Schaffhausen. It's awckward that you know something else. Please keep us informed.


Sorry for mixing up the names, would you like to tell me more about Jurca ?

Here is the story about the Romanian, Macedonian newspaper dnevnik
http://www.dnevnik.com.mk/?itemID=56F53 ... FE3F&arc=1

Ivan Lapcevic story, Macedonian paper Vecer.
http://www.vecer.com.mk/?ItemID=01984A4 ... C80C15ADF1

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Postby mikh » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:04 pm

He's a very talented player. His father, Liviu Jurca is a pretty decent handball coach and was in charge of the women club U Jolidon Cluj till last year.

Rares Jurca left Romania while he was still a youngster and a hot prospect in European handball. He played 2 seasons (I think) for Magdeburg Gladiators, but he couldn't be a constant appearance.

He came back and played for Dinamo between 2004 and 2006, being a main team player in the Cup Winners Cup and then the Champions League.
He is a very talented left-handed RB with a powerful shot (placement could improve though), good off-the-ball moves, good on break-through's, developing good relationships with the pivot (at least this was the case at the NT).

He was instantly spotted by Lino Cervar, and brought to Zagreb, where I don't have much infos about the way he was playing (maybe Picek can help us here).

After Lazarov was transfered to RK Zagreb, he had a discussion with Cervar and the board, when he was explained that Kiril is the main option for RB and he wouldn't play more than half the time next season. He chosed to leave, because he wants to play as much as he can, and his good friend from the NT, Florin Nicolae (LB) suggested him Kadetten Schaffhausen, on of the top Swiss teams, a place where some good players are playing lately.

About Vardar, this is the first time I hear about this transfer option, because the Romanian media (but they can't be trusted all the time) gave his transfer at Kadetten as sure 2 months ago.

We will certainly see Jurca in the games against Sweden (where you deffinitely have the first chance) and maybe we'll find out more certain things about his future afterwards.

P.S. No problem about the name... it can happen :)

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Postby meteo » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:57 am

There are rumours in Spain that Barcelona can compete in the Champions League, because another european club doesn't participate. Granollers announced already it's participation in the EHF-Cup
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Postby Magnus Andersson » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:58 pm

meteo wrote:There are rumours in Spain that Barcelona can compete in the Champions League, because another european club doesn't participate. Granollers announced already it's participation in the EHF-Cup


It's almost confirmated. So Valladolid will play the CWC and Granollers the EHF.

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Postby meteo » Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:18 pm

viborg will play CL as well
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Postby Boysen » Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:07 pm

meteo wrote:viborg will play CL as well

is that for sure?
viborg says that they nothing has heart!
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Postby Bo$ko » Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:02 am

Barcelona and Viborg will play in CL 2007/08 instead of teams Panellinios Athens (Greece) and Handball Esch (Luxembourg)...

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Postby mikh » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:27 am

Does this mean they will enter the Preliminary Round, as second seeds? :?

If so, Brest Meshkovo will advance in the seeded category.

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Postby meteo » Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:38 am

the ranking system was adopted. Barcelona is seeded on position 25 and viborg at 26.

teams from 25-28 will be drawn against teams from 37 to 40 and teams from 29-32 will be drawn against teams from 33-36. Winner in overall comparison of home and return match will compete in the group stage as teams from drawing pot 4. They will join a group with one team ranked from 1-8, one ranked from 9-16 and one ranked from 17-24.

For example: Celje, Montpellier, Gummersbach, Barcelona is possible

So here is the seeding for the qualification round

25 ESP FC Barcelona
26 DEN Viborg HK
27 ROU HCM Constanta
28 MKD Vardar Skopje
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29 ISL Valur Reykjavik
30 ITA Italgest Casarano
31 NOR Drammen HK
32 SRB Roter Stern Belgrad
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33 LTU Viking Malt Panevezyz
34 BLR Brest Meshkovo
35 AUT A1 Bregenz
36 CYP SPE Strovolos
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37 TUR Besiktas Istanbul
38 BEL KV Sasja
39 POR ABC Braga
40 EST Pölva Serviti
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Postby Magnus Andersson » Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:16 pm

Bad luck for the team who have to play with Barcelona in this preview... the second leg will be the same weekend that the Supercup of Spain, so Barcelona want win by a lot of goals in the first match and play the second leg with the team "B".

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Postby mikh » Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:25 pm

@meteo: thank you for the full infos.

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Postby Boysen » Thu Jun 21, 2007 8:41 pm

Viborg is ready to give fck the champions league, because fck won the danish groundgame, and in denmark you'll usealy get a cl place if you win the groundgame.
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Postby Magnus Andersson » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:36 pm

Preview:

Viborg (DAN) - Besiktas Estambul (TUR)
Constanta (ROM) - Sasja (BEL)
ABC Braga (POR) - FC Barcelona (SPA)
HC Vardar Skopje (MAC) - Polva Serviti (EST)
Panevezio "Viking Malt" (LTU) - Valur Reikiavik (ISL)
Italgest Casarano (ITA) - A1 Bregenz (AUT)
Crvena Zvezda Belgrado (SRB) - Meshkov Brest (BLR)
Strovolos (CYP) - Drammen (NOR)

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Postby Bo$ko » Fri Jun 29, 2007 9:59 pm

Men's Champions League 2007/08 DRAW

Group A:

US Ivry Handball (FRA)
Lukoil-Dinamo Astrachan (RUS)
HC Banik Karvina (CZE)
Winner Braga (POR) - Barcelona (ESP)

Group B:

THW Kiel (GER)
Montpellier HB (FRA)
Hammarby IF (SWE)
Winner Constanta (ROM) - Sasja (BEL)

Group C:

HC Croatia Osiguranje Zagreb (CRO)
Ademar Leon (ESP)
Kadetten Schaffhausen (SUI)
Winner Vardar (MKD) - Serviti (EST)

Group D:

GOG Gudme Svendborg TGI (DEN)
Portland San Antonio (ESP)
Tatran Presov (SVK)
Winner Casarano (ITA) - Bregenz (AUT)

Group E:

Chehovski Medvedi Moscow (RUS)
HSV Hamburg (GER)
ZTR Zaporozhye (UKR)
Winner Viborg (DEN) - Istanbul (TUR)

Group F:

RK Celje Pivovarna Lasko (SLO)
MKB Veszprem KC (HUN)
VfL Gummersbach (GER)
Winner Panevezio (LTU) - Reykjavik (ISL)

Group G:

Ciudad Real (ESP)
Flensburg-Handewitt (GER)
MKS Zaglebie Lubin (POL)
Winner Strovolos (CYP) - Drammen (NOR)

Group H:

Pick Szeged (HUN)
Gorenje Velenje (SLO)
RK Bosna Sarajevo (BIH)
Winner Crvena Zvezda Belgrade (SRB) - Brest (BLR)


Very interesting draw and lil bit unfair, because group A is :shock: and 1 from elite clubs won't pass to main round :? Good draw for THW Kiel defending champion and for Portland S.A. ;)

I am happy with H group, and hope that Crvena Zvezda can finally do something in CL... :D

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Postby Horia » Fri Jun 29, 2007 10:24 pm

How can HCM be this lucky, 2 year in a row beaten heavy by Kiel :lol:

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Postby zero » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:09 pm

Bo$ko wrote:

I am happy with H group, and hope that Crvena Dzvezda can finally do something in CL... :D


why DZvezda?
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Postby zero » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:14 pm

mikh wrote:He's a very talented player. His father, Liviu Jurca is a pretty decent handball coach and was in charge of the women club U Jolidon Cluj till last year.

Rares Jurca left Romania while he was still a youngster and a hot prospect in European handball. He played 2 seasons (I think) for Magdeburg Gladiators, but he couldn't be a constant appearance.

He came back and played for Dinamo between 2004 and 2006, being a main team player in the Cup Winners Cup and then the Champions League.
He is a very talented left-handed RB with a powerful shot (placement could improve though), good off-the-ball moves, good on break-through's, developing good relationships with the pivot (at least this was the case at the NT).

He was instantly spotted by Lino Cervar, and brought to Zagreb, where I don't have much infos about the way he was playing (maybe Picek can help us here).

After Lazarov was transfered to RK Zagreb, he had a discussion with Cervar and the board, when he was explained that Kiril is the main option for RB and he wouldn't play more than half the time next season. He chosed to leave, because he wants to play as much as he can, and his good friend from the NT, Florin Nicolae (LB) suggested him Kadetten Schaffhausen, on of the top Swiss teams, a place where some good players are playing lately.

About Vardar, this is the first time I hear about this transfer option, because the Romanian media (but they can't be trusted all the time) gave his transfer at Kadetten as sure 2 months ago.

We will certainly see Jurca in the games against Sweden (where you deffinitely have the first chance) and maybe we'll find out more certain things about his future afterwards.

P.S. No problem about the name... it can happen :)


Yes, he is very good player, and I am very happy becouse I can watching his games this season. He leaves Zagreb only becouse Lazarov is here now. And he is compensation for goalkeeper Dragan Jerkovic who comes from Kadetten Sch.
And his full name is Rares Lucian Jurca.
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Postby Picek » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:31 am

Bo$ko wrote:

Very interesting draw and lil bit unfair, because group A is :shock:
:shock:
what elite clubs from group A?
only Barca can be called elite club..
I would say groups E and F are the hardest ones..
Zagreb got a good group..
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Postby famous » Sat Jun 30, 2007 12:56 am

Picek wrote:what elite clubs from group A?


Maybe Bosko thought that Dinamo Astrachan is elite club, or maybe Karvina :D

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Postby Bo$ko » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:34 am

Picek wrote:
Bo$ko wrote:

Very interesting draw and lil bit unfair, because group A is :shock:
:shock:
what elite clubs from group A?
only Barca can be called elite club..


I didn't write 'from group F' ... big thing :roll: :shock:

But here you are my dear friend to attack if someone make mistake :roll:

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Postby Picek » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:42 am

Bo$ko wrote:
But here you are my dear friend to attack if someone make mistake :roll:
:shock: do you have somekind of problem? :?
except of Barca none of the clubs from the group A can be called so called big club..
this is a first champions league season for Dinamo and Ivry and Karvina is always there just to fill the number of the clubs..
and you are offended now 'cause I'm shocked by your statement? :?
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